Potty before you buy them look at the ARCO website. You can buy Kevlar gloves that laggers use in industry to stop cutting there hands. I have a pair at home and there not very thick. I've seen these at the weekend at the Glee show in Birmingham on Sunday. They look fantastic but the Kevalar ones are thinner and I don't think they cost as much as that. I've picked up Holly with mine and had no problems with them. Hope this is of help.