if your in england,buy English. The government subsidise the dutch growers, hence ,they're grown under warm conditions. They arrive in U.K. in brill condition,but our weather kills them. Our government is too tight, our points, are sturdy, they'll survive, if you don't put them in a draft, or over water them. I learnt that lesson years ago, I brought loads home, kept them in a bedroom, really looked after them{so I thought}. the whole b....y lot died. five bin bags, I threw out!! Never again