I agree totally Alby, Im not great with outdoor as i think most florists wouldnt be cause we had enough to learn at college with indoor without outdoor too, and I find they abreviate the names so google cant find them either lol. My plants came in today and I have some snapdragons that i dont remember ordering lol, they were down as 'Ov Vast Gemengde Kar' on the invoice but im nearly sure thats not snapdragons and I cant remember what it was i was looking at, could have been busy lizzy......I recon the dutchies know im rubbish at outdoor so they just send me whatever they have got most of