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Old 19-03-2008, 11:38 PM
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[quote=jakenl2001;62786]Wendie, Pageblonde and Frizzytwig, what courses are you studying?

I'm part way through ANCF, which is pass, credit distinction. We are told if we have tutor support that immediately removes the opportunity for a distinction.

i'm at Solihull College studying BTEC National Award Diploma in Floristry Lv3.
we don't get tutor support as such - we hand in written assignements if they hit the mark we are given the option ONCE to upgrade if we do not hit the grade then we get our original mark whatever it is - for each unit we have to get 4 marks for each grade to get a pass we have to get all 4 passess to get a merit we have to all 4 passes and all 4 merits to get a distinction we have to get all 4 passes, all 4 merits and all 4 distinctions. then at the ned we get an overall grade for the course - which is worked out on a point score system
last year i got 5 units at distinction and 1 unit at merit but my overall grade was a distinction plus - because i had enough points.
What does ANCF stand for is yours a full time course?? mine is full time in college and full time on homework - been married less than 2 years and we see each other over my laptop lid - but he is getting good at cooking and ironing tho
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Old 19-03-2008, 11:42 PM
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I'm doing the level 2 just below you Jake and I agree things do need shaking up a bit. Pinklily, we have no opportunity to upgrade, for a practical we have to complete the design in a specified amount of time to spec, it will then be marked pass, credit, dist. If you fail you can retry but you can only get a pass no matter how good it is. Same with written assignments as well, has to be handed in on time or only get a pass. Not doing too bad at mo, I average distinctions for practical and all written are distinctions, so far (except one I forgot- Georgian project, yuk got credit for that, put no effort in at all). What bugs me though is that everyone will leave our course qualified, even if they are pants, cos they keep doing the assessments until they pass!
if you get a referral on first hand in you ONE chance to upgrade to a pass the feedback is so good that you can't miss a pass - but if you fail the second time you don't get a chance again - so you can opt out of that unit and get a grade for the units you do pass and not for the course.
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Old 20-03-2008, 02:16 AM
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It stands for Advanced National Certificate in Floristry (level 3) which is set by City & Guilds. Next is the HDF (level 4) which is the higher diploma in floristry, then the MDPF Master Diploma in Professional Floristry (level 5) which is as high as it goes.. Which is why I chose this route. The BTECs HNDs are quite business orientated with little practical so they weren't for me having already done business. It's the practical side I won't to perfect.

They say if going Edexcel/BTEC route the MDPF should be considered as these focus on academic/research skills in the wider landbased/floriculture sector, not just floristry.
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It stands for Advanced National Certificate in Floristry (level 3) which is set by City & Guilds. Next is the HDF (level 4) which is the higher diploma in floristry, then the MDPF Master Diploma in Professional Floristry (level 5) which is as high as it goes.. Which is why I chose this route. The BTECs HNDs are quite business orientated with little practical so they weren't for me having already done business. It's the practical side I won't to perfect.

They say if going Edexcel/BTEC route the MDPF should be considered as these focus on academic/research skills in the wider landbased/floriculture sector, not just floristry.
arh now i know what the letters mean thank you
we do quite a bit of practical we do 65 arrangements over 3 units which cover funeral wedding and gift wrapped arrangements and then the other 3 units are all paper work and research and tons of writing
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hey guys , no we dont get chance 2 upgrade, shame, im doing nat cert 2, ive already bdecided not doing level 3, to much theory not enough practical 4 my liking
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Frizzy that turned out fab in the end, your bouquet is gorgeous. Well done!

I'm doing the Level 2 National Certificate in Floristry, same as Frizzy except I'm doing it over a year and learning balloon artistry as well. We got some information about the Advanced Certificate today and I'm really keen to get on it after this ends.
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I love the level 3. It needs updating, some really dark-age stuff in there and not enough creative scope. You should definitely do it. The business units are something of nothing and you don't gain a lot, but it you don't mind jumping through a few hoops, you'll get a good qualification out of it.
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I would like to do the ANC course but logistically it would be a nightmare for me plus a grand down to boot. Think I'll put it on hold for a couple of years until the kids can get themselves home from school.
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The good thing about the ANCF is it is classed as full-time, although only 3 days per week, and as such attracts government funding. It therefore only cost me £60 for the year. Plus a small fee for materials. Trips are additional and not compulsory...don't give up, have a look at different colleges maybe?
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thats the good thing about my course too classed as full time - only go 3 days a week - got funding through college for traveling and materials, and there are trips like April we are going to Cornwall to the Eden Project and some other places over 3 days - paid for by college and in may off to Holland for a week - visit Aalsmeer flower auction etc - paid for by college AND cos i didn't earn any money last year qualified for ALG (Adult learning grant) £30.00 per week (over 19's version of EMA) which is good cos i spend the 4 days i'm not in college doing bloody assignments and evaluations?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or doing my 240 hrs work experience (unpaid)
but believe i ain't moaning i think i got it very easy compared to some in my group who have paid for the course and trips.
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